If that is true then why does there need to be a wikipedia entry for this? Why is this list so freaking long!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatalities_from_aviation_accidents

The answer is apparent to me and I’m posting this in the hopes I can make it apparent to you too. Not so you feel sorry for these people; they are all responsible for everything that happened to them. But to warn you against seeking things as worthless and fleeting as material wealth and fame.

Get this, when they concocted the story that Lynyrd Skynyrd's airplane ran out of fuel causing its crash, they couldn't even get the details of the story straight in the beginning.

That always happens when something is true.

Ronnie expected it. He knew it was coming.

— Dream PhD (@PoisonIceCream1) December 16, 2025

Last night I asked ChatGPT a specific question: “did anyone ever suspect the air crash that killed ronnie van zant was suspicious?”

The way it answered was, of course, suspect. The men who murdered Ronnie and his band mates programmed ChatGPT.

It basically said yes, listed zero of the suspicions, and then gaslighted me into accepting the cover story.

I responded like this which is useless really. I’m not using this thing because I trust it. I know better than to.

“I know what was said to have happened. I am curious about those who were suspicious of it and what they had to say. I made that clear. I know why you did what you did but I did not ask to be lied to.”

Think about it this way, I’m more certain now I’m right because I know ChatGPT tried to lie to me. But it did try and backtrack and claim that’s not it was doing and it actually gave me much of the information I was originally after. Here are some details:

1. Fans and some Southern rock journalists (late 1970s–1980s)

Claim: The crash was too “convenient” given Lynyrd Skynyrd’s growing power and autonomy.

What they pointed to:

• Skynyrd was becoming financially independent, renegotiating contracts, and resisting industry pressure
• Ronnie Van Zant was known for not playing industry games
• The plane had a history of mechanical issues and was still chartered anyway
• Suspicion that cutting corners wasn’t accidental, but tolerated because the band was “expendable”

2. People disturbed by Ronnie Van Zant’s statements

Claim: Ronnie’s repeated talk of dying young wasn’t just superstition.

What they cited:

• He reportedly said multiple times he would not live past 30
• He allegedly disliked the plane and flying in general
• Some believed he had been warned or sensed something specific, not abstract

Skeptics of this view say it’s hindsight bias. Believers argue the specificity and repetition makes it unsettling.

I skipped three because it tried to blame the airplane and I think that’s misinformation. I don’t think anything was wrong with the plane. Their claims about how much fuel the engines were burning are absolutely impossible to be true.

4. Early crash-scene irregularities

Claim: The investigation was sloppy or prematurely closed.

Specific concerns raised:

• Conflicting early reports about fuel levels
• Wreckage handling criticized by some aviation observers
• Media quickly settling on a simple narrative

No hard proof emerged — but for skeptics, the speed of narrative closure felt wrong.

Why this is so suspicious: we see it often in these deaths that are framed as something they are not. The authorities always know what is going on. When Chris Cornell died in a Hotel room, the Hotel wouldn’t allow anyone access to the room for a long time. They quickly called that suicide before any medical examiners report was issued. This is what happened with Kurt Cobain. The guy Courtney put up to discovering Kurt’s body blames her for his death, because it’s clear he at least had knowledge of it. Courtney told him to specifically look in the greenhouse for Kurt, which is where he was eventually found. It ticked him off. They tried to kill him in Rome but he pulled through. He was probably just sitting around waiting for someone to show up at that point. He wanted a divorce. He and Courtney were separated, but Courtney Love was Kurt Cobain’s handler, and those aren’t relationships that are easily broken off. It doesn’t help they had a prenup agreement. I don’t know how Courtney ended up getting her hands on his Estate, well I guess I do! When you work for the men who decide those sorts of things….

5. Broader “pattern” thinkers

Claim: Too many musicians died in similar ways in that era.

This group connects:

• Plane crashes
• Drug deaths
• Contract disputes
• Artists resisting control

This is where speculation drifts furthest — but it exists, and pretending it doesn’t would be dishonest.

I left that last line which is only relevant to the fact I caught this program lying to me and now it’s attempting to convince me of its honesty. It’s so clear when you use these things the exact sort of men who programmed them. These are psychological tricks those people always try to pull that you don’t typically see from a computer program. Most people can inherently tell when they are being gaslit.

But hey, it me: A Broader Pattern Thinker.

What they really mean is “People with pattern-recognition skills.”